SEMPER IDEM.

Plut.
Amica non est vtendum, vt floribus; tam diu gratis,
quamdiu recentibus.

Euer thesame.

When flowers are fresh & fayre wee take in them delight,
But vaded once and donne, all their esteem is paste,
Loue doth contrariwise in all tymes lyue and last,
For tyme must not bereaue true loue of due and right.

Stabile il ogni tempo.

Non, qual si suole amor bel fiore, amate,
Che tanto tempo s’ama quanto è verde,
Se pur l’amata è vecchia, ò stagion perde
Non le diate doler, non la sdegniate.

Altijt euen schoon.

Bemindt niet/ soo men acht de schoone blomkens cierigh/
Die soo langh sy zijn versch men maer in eeren houdt:
Is v liefs ieught verslenst/ is sy iongh ofte oudt/
Hoe ’t sy/ versmaetse niet/ maer toont v euen vierigh.

Tousiours de mesme.

Il ne faut pas qu’Amour ressemble à la fleur belle,
De laquelle on fait cas, tant qu’elle se flaistrit.
Que demeure à iamais Dame de ton esprit.
Qui or en son prim-temps de ses traits te pointelle.

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Altijd dezelfde.

Always the same.

[Plutarchus] Je moet je vriendin niet als bloemen gebruiken die aangenaam zijn zolang ze vers zijn.

[Plutarchus] You must not use your girl-friend like flowers who delight you as long as they are young.

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Literature

Sebastiàn, Lectura crítica, p. 47

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Sources and parallels

Semper idem [62] (in: Otto Vaenius, Emblemata aliquot selectiora amatoria (1618)) [Compare]
Love holding a rose/flowers in: De Ziele met Godts genade aangeblickt [7] (in: Jan Luyken, Jesus en de ziel (1685)) [Compare]
Love holding a rose/flowers in: De Ziele door Goddelijke genade verquickt [28] (in: Jan Luyken, Jesus en de ziel (1685)) [Compare]
Parallel for the pictura (mirrored, background less detailed); the parallels for the mottoes rather concern the message than the exact form.Un Cupidon tenant des Fleurs dans ses Mains (in: Daniel de la Feuille, Devises et emblemes (1691)) [Compare]
Love compared to flowers (roses) also in:Turpe senilis amor. [33] (in: Jacob Cats, Sinne- en minnebeelden (1627)) [Compare]

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Turpe senilis amor. [33] (in: Jacob Cats, Sinne- en minnebeelden (1627))
Un Cupidon tenant des Fleurs dans ses Mains (in: Daniel de la Feuille, Devises et emblemes (1691))
De Ziele met Godts genade aangeblickt [7] (in: Jan Luyken, Jesus en de ziel (1685))
De Ziele door Goddelijke genade verquickt [28] (in: Jan Luyken, Jesus en de ziel (1685))
Semper idem [62] (in: Otto Vaenius, Emblemata aliquot selectiora amatoria (1618))

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A cupid with a bunch of flowers in one hand and a big rose in the other

flowers (+ plants used symbolically) [25G41(+1)]
flowers (+ dead, withered plant) [25G41(+371)]
plants and herbs (with NAME) (+ flowers, blossom, blossoming) [25G4(ROSE)(+32)]
rock-formations [25H1123]
river [25H213]
farm or solitary house in landscape [25I3]
Stability, Firmness; 'Fermezza', 'Stabilimento', 'Stabilité' (Ripa) (+ emblematical representation of concept) [53A22(+4)]
Pleasure, Enjoyment, Joy; 'Allegrezza', 'Allegrezza da le medaglie', 'Allegrezza, letitia e giubilo', 'Diletto', 'Piacere', 'Piacere honesto' (Ripa) (+ emblematical representation of concept) [56B1(+4):51B3(+4)]
(personifications and symbolic representations of) Love; 'Amore (secondo Seneca)' (Ripa) (+ emblematical representation of concept) [56F2(+4)]
proverbs, sayings, etc. (with TEXT) [86(SEMPER IDEM)]
specific aspects of Cupid [92D17]

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Semper idem [116]

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